From lmfrankenberger at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 13:02:05 2008 From: lmfrankenberger at yahoo.com (Lisa Frankenberger) Date: Wed Aug 6 14:02:29 2008 Subject: [tbc] A Route from The Turnpike Trail to Park Lane School? Message-ID: <175997.58662.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, ? I am in century training mode and would like to add some extra miles to this Saturday's ride.? This is just an on the fly idea that I've not looked heavily into, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a good route to go from the creek turnpike trail to the start of the ride at Park Lane?? ? Thanks! Lisa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.rootwizard.net/pipermail/tbc/attachments/20080806/e08beb3b/attachment.html From cbfairless at cox.net Wed Aug 6 18:11:27 2008 From: cbfairless at cox.net (Carolyn Fairless) Date: Wed Aug 6 17:11:57 2008 Subject: [tbc] AVERY DRIVE CLEANUP-- Spread the word Message-ID: <000c01c8f811$5f982c80$1ec88580$@net> Tulsa Bicycle Club invites you and your cycling friends to help keep Avery Drive clean. The Wheelmen and TBC each adopted approximately 1.5 miles of the road and the two clubs often coordinate their efforts. But this may be a bigger cleanup than usual because of the ice storm debris and possible budget cuts to county road maintenance, so please help out! The next TBC ADCU is Sept 13 at 7:30 a.m. with a 30-35 mile ride as soon as possible afterwards: Prattville to End of Coyote Trail, then across dam, up New Prue, cut over to Pogue Hill or 97T and back to Prattville. Maps available if needed. TBC has tons of gloves, sticks etc. Meet at west end of Avery in grassy area. Someone will be watching bikes and cars while everyone else picks up trash. Sturdy shoes recommended. Depending on how much the county can help, we may shovel off some of the worse gravel. Door prizes! Contact Carolyn for info: 625-5200 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.rootwizard.net/pipermail/tbc/attachments/20080806/3439fff8/attachment.html From bikestgirl at cox.net Wed Aug 6 18:21:07 2008 From: bikestgirl at cox.net (Eve O'Kelley) Date: Wed Aug 6 17:21:27 2008 Subject: [tbc] AVERY DRIVE CLEANUP-- Spread the word In-Reply-To: <000c01c8f811$5f982c80$1ec88580$@net> Message-ID: <20080806222107.BQPY4226.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> Is there any way this ride could be marked - it's too much trouble to try and ride and read a map too - and following others doesn't always work, as I found out on the Verdigris ride. Thanks...Eve _____ From: tbc-bounces@rootwizard.net [mailto:tbc-bounces@rootwizard.net] On Behalf Of Carolyn Fairless Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:11 PM To: 'Mark & Lisa'; TAT-OK@yahoogroups.com; TBC@rootwizard.net Subject: [tbc] AVERY DRIVE CLEANUP-- Spread the word Tulsa Bicycle Club invites you and your cycling friends to help keep Avery Drive clean. The Wheelmen and TBC each adopted approximately 1.5 miles of the road and the two clubs often coordinate their efforts. But this may be a bigger cleanup than usual because of the ice storm debris and possible budget cuts to county road maintenance, so please help out! The next TBC ADCU is Sept 13 at 7:30 a.m. with a 30-35 mile ride as soon as possible afterwards: Prattville to End of Coyote Trail, then across dam, up New Prue, cut over to Pogue Hill or 97T and back to Prattville. Maps available if needed. TBC has tons of gloves, sticks etc. Meet at west end of Avery in grassy area. Someone will be watching bikes and cars while everyone else picks up trash. Sturdy shoes recommended. Depending on how much the county can help, we may shovel off some of the worse gravel. Door prizes! Contact Carolyn for info: 625-5200 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.rootwizard.net/pipermail/tbc/attachments/20080806/b95496a1/attachment.html From ride.with.tim at cox.net Wed Aug 6 20:34:16 2008 From: ride.with.tim at cox.net (Tim Noteboom (rwt)) Date: Wed Aug 6 19:34:12 2008 Subject: [tbc] FW: Feedback form Ad Request from TBC Web Page Message-ID: <20080807003352.JBRP22786.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> FYI. F rom Clair Powers, BTW, we saw a cyclist hurt after what appeared to be a nasty fall on the trail on the west side of the river Saturday morning. He was coming down the hill right after the Turkey Mountain parking lot and apparently hit a patch of sand and ended up in the trees. EMSA and the fire department were there when we got there. Fortunately, he didn't appear to be seriously injured. Anyway, I'm sure it goes without saying that cyclists need to be careful coming down that hill but I thought I'd pass that along, if it's worth "posting". - Clair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.rootwizard.net/pipermail/tbc/attachments/20080806/86b80616/attachment.html From giantcycle99 at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 15:03:39 2008 From: giantcycle99 at gmail.com (Moni) Date: Mon Aug 11 14:04:32 2008 Subject: [tbc] a new journal Message-ID: <99d35d20808111203s253db6bdn143dc59a7df675a2@mail.gmail.com> by me is up. Mountains are just not my thing I guess. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/missoulatojasper -- Moni From dbwilkinson at cox.net Fri Aug 15 14:17:27 2008 From: dbwilkinson at cox.net (David Wilkinson) Date: Fri Aug 15 13:17:56 2008 Subject: [tbc] Sat 9 a.m. ride - Aug 16th Message-ID: <26C40B79-58BE-4BA4-AF56-ECE11D99C08E@cox.net> Can you put out an email to all TBC members? Evidently there are two times (link and calendar) for the ride I'm leading tomorrow from Tulsa Community College - Southeast Campus (Hwy 169 and 81st St). The ride departs at 9:00 a.m. That time was chosen because Spaghetti Warehouse doesn't open until 11 a.m. David Wilkinson From tim-noteboom at cox.net Sun Aug 17 20:36:53 2008 From: tim-noteboom at cox.net (Tim Noteboom) Date: Sun Aug 17 19:36:34 2008 Subject: [tbc] FW: TBC HotterNHell event Message-ID: <20080818003607.KYFE2096.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Kucera [mailto:kucerajenny@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:24 PM To: tim-noteboom@cox.net Cc: lynnak@tds.net; dbroaddrick@kivell.com; mschooling@sbcglobal.net; rideczar@cox.net; bentcruiser@cox.net Subject: TBC HotterNHell event Hello Tim, I have a hotel room available for HotterNHell. Could you please post this information on the Web site, or perhaps distribute it through the TBC group e-mail list? Or suggest how I should do this ... Thank you - I appreciate your help. ~Jenny Kucera --------------------- I have a hotel room available for HotterNHell. 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As bicyclists who continuely use the public streets I know without a doubt we've all heard the "get on the sidewalk" yell and I was even invited once to be a cabinent member?(for a guy who claims to be running for president in the future,) when after riding my bike to a local bar got yelled at harshly by a gentleman who felt passionatly that bicyclists had no right on the road and just smiled, acknowldeged his coment and went right back to my own business (who has the time to actually defend themselves that often!!) ? That being said.....I don't know many cyclists that continuously follow the laws of the road.? This is a topic that I've been really into lately too because when I ride by myself, or with the 2 or three folks I continuously ride with we obey each and every traffic signal and stop sign.? I may run a red light if after forever it doesn't change and it's apparent it's not going to but other that that we slow down, unclip, wait, then go when it is our turn.? Granted we don't break any speed limits by no means and we don't intend to so I can understand the frusteration when those who are riding for sport are irritated by having to stop so often. ? I won't pretend I'm this 100% of the time,?perfect law abiding cyclist because I'm not and I'm very suseseptable to the peer pressure of group rides...especially when I don't know where the heck I am, but I?at least treat my commute to work with the upmost respect for traffic control and the drivers around me.? I hope to be an example to motorists that we can co-exist. ? We all know the saying "same road, same rights, same rules"; and we all know that we could use some work on the same rules part. ? Lisa --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Ed Wagner wrote: From: Ed Wagner Subject: [Wheelmen] Irritated Tulsan blog To: Wheelmen@yahoogroups.com, MidTownSocialClub@yahoogroups.com, TAOBIKE@yahoogroups.com, "SGC group SustainableGreenCountry" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:45 PM This is what passes for funny these days: http://irritatedtulsan.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/letter-to-the-editor-8-bicycle-edition/ > Until then, I have some solutions to help weed out bikers: > > 1. When driving, merge in front of the bicyclist. Slam on your brakes. > You?ll hear a thud. That?s normal. Look in your review mirror. Once > you see nothing, you?re in the clear. If you do see motion, back up > and drive forward a few times. Do this until the screaming stops. > Wasn't someone hurt this way recently? If anyone knows irritated tulsan, give him hell. Gosh, I'd like to meet this guy to give him a little more comedic impact. 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URL: http://www.rootwizard.net/pipermail/tbc/attachments/20080821/f725f122/attachment.html From giantcycle99 at gmail.com Mon Aug 25 19:18:24 2008 From: giantcycle99 at gmail.com (Moni) Date: Mon Aug 25 18:19:19 2008 Subject: [tbc] daffodils Message-ID: <99d35d20808251618s6561a354nbc38499219327676@mail.gmail.com> Not sure, if anyone remembers planting daffodils? Howard and I (and others) have done quite a few along some trails in the greater Tulsa area. Even Tomilyn joined me one year. I just spied a GREAT bargain on daffodil bulbs at the local SAMS (Edmond, well, OKC). They just hollered at me, and forced me to buy some again. Makes me think. Is there anyone else in the bicycling community that would enjoy the yellow of daffodils? The time to buy the freshest and biggest bulbs has arrived. Go forth, and plant and watch them multiply over the years. -- Moni From gregb at netwrx1.net Tue Aug 26 11:35:22 2008 From: gregb at netwrx1.net (September Brown) Date: Tue Aug 26 10:36:10 2008 Subject: [tbc] Kudos for Reasors Grocery Store Message-ID: Today, I rode my bike to Reasors at 41st & Yale, and I just hated putting my bike in the rack, which had been moved to a hidden alcove on the West side of the entrance, in a mulch bed next to the little garage door where they shove all the shopping carts after they pick them up from the parking lot. I saw the security guard and asked if I could park it in the lobby, and he said okay, as long as I didn't block anything. I brought it in and parked it next to a pole, and he said he'd stand there with it till I got back. When I came out, the manager was chatting with him. I thanked the guard for watching my bike, and asked the manager "Didn't that bike rack used to be over there on the other side of the entrance?" "Yes", he replied, "People kept thinking that exit door next to it was an entrance, so we moved the bike rack." "Oh", I said, "I don't feel safe parking my bike over there (where it is now). It's in a mulch bed, and nobody can see it if someone steals it." "Well", he replied, looking at the security guard, "I think people have figured out where the entrance is by now. Wanna help me move it back?" I thanked them as they went to move it. As I was leaving, they carried it past me, and the manager winked and said with a chuckle to the security guard "I TOLD you this wasn't a good idea." I thanked him, and told him I'd ride my bike to Reasor's more often now. __o _-\<,_ September Brown (_)/ (_) gregb@netwrx1.net Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive. -Robert Pirsig From bikestgirl at cox.net Tue Aug 26 11:57:33 2008 From: bikestgirl at cox.net (Eve O'Kelley) Date: Tue Aug 26 10:58:03 2008 Subject: [tbc] Kudos for Reasors Grocery Store In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080826155734.QEWN2096.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> I rode to Reasors at 17th & Yale recently to rent a movie and just took my bike in with me and stood it up inside the video dept. while I looked and no one said anything. When I checked out the video dept manager asked about my bike and riding, etc., as he is also a cyclist. I take my bike into Lowe's all the time and walk up and down the aisles with it while I shop - no one says anything. I enjoy running errands this way and others seem interested in asking about cycling...Eve -----Original Message----- From: tbc-bounces@rootwizard.net [mailto:tbc-bounces@rootwizard.net] On Behalf Of September Brown Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:35 AM To: MidTownSocialClub@yahoogroups.com; Tulsa Bicycle Club; wheelmen@yahoogroups.com; TAOBIKE@yahoogroups. com; NewOBC@yahoogroups.com; ok-bike-society@yahoogroups.com; Touring@phred.org; BicycleCommuterGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [tbc] Kudos for Reasors Grocery Store Today, I rode my bike to Reasors at 41st & Yale, and I just hated putting my bike in the rack, which had been moved to a hidden alcove on the West side of the entrance, in a mulch bed next to the little garage door where they shove all the shopping carts after they pick them up from the parking lot. I saw the security guard and asked if I could park it in the lobby, and he said okay, as long as I didn't block anything. I brought it in and parked it next to a pole, and he said he'd stand there with it till I got back. When I came out, the manager was chatting with him. I thanked the guard for watching my bike, and asked the manager "Didn't that bike rack used to be over there on the other side of the entrance?" "Yes", he replied, "People kept thinking that exit door next to it was an entrance, so we moved the bike rack." "Oh", I said, "I don't feel safe parking my bike over there (where it is now). It's in a mulch bed, and nobody can see it if someone steals it." "Well", he replied, looking at the security guard, "I think people have figured out where the entrance is by now. Wanna help me move it back?" I thanked them as they went to move it. As I was leaving, they carried it past me, and the manager winked and said with a chuckle to the security guard "I TOLD you this wasn't a good idea." I thanked him, and told him I'd ride my bike to Reasor's more often now. __o _-\<,_ September Brown (_)/ (_) gregb@netwrx1.net Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive. -Robert Pirsig _______________________________________________ TBC mailing list TBC@rootwizard.net http://www.rootwizard.net/mailman/listinfo/tbc From gregb at netwrx1.net Tue Aug 26 13:14:28 2008 From: gregb at netwrx1.net (September Brown) Date: Tue Aug 26 12:19:34 2008 Subject: [tbc] daffodils References: <99d35d20808251618s6561a354nbc38499219327676@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5BA5007F56514C16B915C6128B41AF3A@eMachine> Moni, I remember hearing about you guys doing the daffodil ride last year, and I couldn't go that day. I think it's a great idea. I'd like to plant some mixed bulbs next to the I-44 bike trail this fall. September ----- Original Message ----- Not sure, if anyone remembers planting daffodils? Howard and I (and others) have done quite a few along some trails in the greater Tulsa area. Even Tomilyn joined me one year. I just spied a GREAT bargain on daffodil bulbs at the local SAMS (Edmond, well, OKC). They just hollered at me, and forced me to buy some again. Makes me think. Is there anyone else in the bicycling community that would enjoy the yellow of daffodils? The time to buy the freshest and biggest bulbs has arrived. Go forth, and plant and watch them multiply over the years. -- Moni From gregb at netwrx1.net Tue Aug 26 13:16:45 2008 From: gregb at netwrx1.net (September Brown) Date: Tue Aug 26 12:19:53 2008 Subject: [tbc] Kudos for Reasors Grocery Store References: <20080826155734.QEWN2096.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> Message-ID: <76DAF50B8E9144C4BC03F306C8E72445@eMachine> Cool! It's nice to hear about places that are accommodating, rather than making it difficult. I'd heard stories of some restaurant drive-thrus that won't serve people on bicycles. I went to Chase bank today, and they don't have any problems with cyclists in the drive-thru, but they don't have a bike rack if you need to go inside. I ended up chaining my bike to the handicapped parking sign. If someone were inclined, they could have lifted my bike over the top of the sign, but it was my only lock-up option. September From ride.with.tim at cox.net Sat Aug 30 07:47:24 2008 From: ride.with.tim at cox.net (Tim Noteboom (rwt)) Date: Sat Aug 30 06:47:33 2008 Subject: [tbc] FW: TBC Hello from Martha Reichert (DeLesDernier) Message-ID: <20080830114707.UNZS18077.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> For those of you that knew Martha... -----Original Message----- From: mreichert@ocaheart.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:40 PM To: rideczar@cox.net; dustyt@cox.net; ride.with.tim@cox.net Subject: Feedback Generic from TBC Web Page >From Martha DeLesDernier Sent to TBC President, Vice President and Webmaster ?I would like to say hi to everyone that remembers me and I miss you all. Steve and I have been married over 5 yrs now and still living in Oklahoma City. Please send me a e-mail and let me know how you all are doing. Heres my e-mail mreichert@ocaheart.com